to do with china and are essential to get right to make sure the u.s. and european countries are on track. >> host: it's almost as if there's a couple of different books in one book. there is your story of the decline of the west, your story of the rise of the east and the lines are going to cross. >> guest: i think this is you can argue there's an absolute part for short talking about the west and its isolation and issues going out there and going in an amazing time and other european economies have done the unthinkable moving hundreds of millions of people out of poverty so this is going to naturally be able to question as well. >> host: let's talk about what is going wrong in the west. >> guest: first of all its important that in terms of the context of my work i talk about the unintended consequences, things that sound like a good intentions but actually yield bad outcomes and what i have done is to focus on the three key ingredients economists focus on as the drivers of economic growth and there is a capital that is basically money, labor that is the work force and then

that have nothing to do with china and essential to get right to make sure the u.s. and european countries are back on track. >> host: it's like a couple different books in one book. there's the story of the decline of the west, the rise of the east, and the basic premise of the lines are going to cross. >> guest: you can argue there's an absolute part for sure talking about the west in isolation and what the issues are going on there, and then, of course, we live in an amazing time of china and other emerging economies have done the unthinkable, moving hundreds of thousands of people out of poverty. of course, that's answering the ire relative question as well which is what i've done in the book. >> host: let's start by talking about what's going wrong in the west. >> guest: sure. first of all, i think it's really important in terms of context of my work, entalk about unintended consequences, good intentions, but yields bad outcomes. what i've done in the book is focus on the three key ingredients. those are capital, basically money, labor, which is basically the work force, and then fina

sure the u.s. and european countries are on the right track. >> host: is almost like there's a couple of different books in one book. there is your story of the decline of the west. the rise of the east, and i guess the basic premise is that the lines are going to cross. >> you can argue that there is an absolute part talking about the west and its isolation and with the issues are going on there and of course we live in an easing time when china and the other emerging economies have done the unthinkable moving these people of poverty so it is going to be in the year relevant question as well which is what i have done in the book. >> let's start by talking about what is going on in the west. >> guest: sure. i think it's important that in terms of the context of my work i talked about the unintended consequences, things that seemingly undersurface from the good intention but actually yield bad outcomes and what i've done in this book is to focus on the three key ingredients that economists focus on as the drivers of economic growth and those are capital which is basically money. lieber

that there is something more beyond the boundaries of the u.s.a., and it was a big world with a lot of people living out their who are affected by your decisions. >> host: gives a a more global perspective. >> guest: i think so. >> host: we're talking about your book, "the obamas: the untold story of an african family." we've been looking at president obama's lineage to his father side in africa come in kenya. that's the one thing to rest. you're not a birther. we are not discussing whether obama was born in hawaii or born in india. you think he was born quite clearly in hawaii. now, because there are people who claim that our birth certificates, all kinds of circulate on the internet. this is a kind of issue that doesn't seem to go away. so let's try to put to rest a bit. why do you say, why are you confident that obama was born in hawaii? >> guest: there's never been an issue in britain. basically let anybody become prime minister, it's not a big deal. you have to be nativeborn. but i understand the constitution you have to be born on american territory to become president. so that's why it's a big t

that there is something more beyond the boundaries of the u.s.a. and there is a big world with a lot of people living who are affected by decisions. >> host: it gives them a more global tears. we are talking about your book, "the obamas: the untold story of an african family." we have been looking at president obama's lineage through his father's side in africa and kenya. what's the one thing to rest. he ran not a further. we are not discussing whether obama was born in hawaii or kenya. you think he was born quite clearly in hawaii. now there are people with her certificate of all kinds circulating on the internet. this is an issue that doesn't seem to go away. so, let's put it to rest a little bit. why are you confident that obama was born in hawaii? >> guest: is not even an issue in britain. it's not a big deal. i understand constitutionally you have to be born an american territory to become president, so that's why it's a big thing. so i thought well, that's really have a close look and examine what the argument is. now, the first thing is he wasn't born in hawaii. and yet, the department of health h

of american women who were -- who were wives working in the u.s. embassy in nairobi at the time. and for all his faults obama, sr., was a very charming man and he could charm the ladies. he clearly impressed he's women not only with his ambition and his determination but intelligence. and so it's actually through private meetings he's actually able to secure a place in hawaii and he actually flew quite independently of oboya's airlift with american women from the american embassy who actually funded his place and his air fare. you talk about the selma speech and, you know, president obama is a consummate politician and he gave this great speech, rousing speech in selma in which he referred his father came over from this great airlift in which he used it to somehow claim part of the camelot connection. and kennedy wasn't elected until the following year. he made an error. and he acknowledged the error immediately. his campaign team actually made public just a few days after selma that actually that was an error and, in fact, it wasn't correct. so he did correct himself even though he was, i g

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